The First WitnessesJohn 20:24-25

He Said He Needed To See

This message is for the grandson who told you he needs to see it for himself, and the eight months you have spent certain that this means he is going

He said it at her kitchen table with a mug in his hand and he said it kindly, which is what she keeps going back to.

He is twenty-six. He was not being cruel and he was not making a speech. He had driven over on a Saturday because he does, roughly monthly, and they had talked about his job and a car and a girl he is not calling a girlfriend yet.

And then, in a pause, he said: Gran, I am not going to be able to just take it. I need to see something for myself.

She said something. She cannot remember what.

He stayed another hour and washed up and took a tin of biscuits with him and hugged her at the door the way he always does, and rang the next day about something else.

That was eight months ago.

And in eight months she has built a whole departure out of one sentence.

She has him gone. She has worked out which Christmas will be the one where somebody says something. She has thought about what she would say to his mother. She has, twice, lain awake constructing the conversation she will have with him in about four years when he tells her plainly that he does not believe any of it, and she has decided what she will say and she has decided not to cry.

Eight months of that.

And he has been over five times since. He fixed the gutter in June. He rang last week about the girl.

He Said He Needed To See

The record keeps the man who said he needed to see

Let me put the eight months where they belong before anything else, because they have not come out of nowhere.

You have watched people go. You have been in that church long enough to have seen a good number of young men say something at a kitchen table and then be gone in a way that nobody announced, and you have watched what it did to their grandmothers. Nothing written turns that memory into a prophecy, and the Holy Spirit is not bound by the pattern of the last four boys.

So when he said it, you did not hear a twenty-six year old being honest. You heard the opening of something you have seen finish before.

Now hear this, and take it as settled rather than as reassurance: the account you have believed since you were a girl keeps a man who said exactly that, and keeps him inside the room. That is not my kind reading of eight months, it is what stands written in John's twentieth chapter, and the same Holy Spirit who preserved it was at your kitchen table on that Saturday.

Read what he said, and notice that nobody softened it.

Unless I see the nail marks in His hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.John 20:25

That is one of the Twelve. Not a hostile outsider. One of His own, saying flatly, in front of the others, that he is not going to take their word for it.

And it is written down and kept, with his name on it, in a document about Jesus.

Now here is the part almost nobody notices, and it is the part for you.

The next verse begins: a week later His disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them.

A week. And where was he?

In the house. With them. He did not go anywhere. He said the hardest thing anybody says in that book and then he turned up the following week and was in the room, and the account records that too.

So this is yours right now rather than pending four years of dread: what he said to you at that table is in the record and so is what the man who said it did next, because the written word keeps both the sentence and the fact that he stayed, and the Spirit of God is the one who saw to it that neither half was left out.

And the honest boundary, because this house does not overclaim. Keeping an unflattering detail is an argument about invention and one consideration among several. It does not settle everything and nobody should hand it to you as a proof. What it does is tell you what kind of sentence you actually heard on that Saturday.

The breakthrough

So ask him what he meant.

Not at Christmas and not in a serious voice, because a serious voice will turn a sentence into a summons. Ask him next time he is over and both of you are doing something with your hands, because what is written was mostly said while people were walking or eating, and the Holy Spirit works in a kitchen more readily than in a summit.

You said you needed to see something for yourself. What did you mean?

You can ask that today rather than in four years, because Scripture keeps the man who said he would not believe unless he saw and keeps him in the house a week later, and the Holy Spirit has never once treated an honest sentence as a departure notice.

And listen properly to the answer, because there is a real chance it is not what you have spent eight months building. I need to see something for myself is not the same sentence as I do not believe this. It is much closer to the opposite: it is a young man saying he wants the real thing rather than the inherited thing, and that is the sentence of somebody who intends to stay long enough to find out.

And here is the practical piece, and it is the only advice in this article. When he tells you, do not answer with an argument. Ask him a second question.

Because the thing that keeps a twenty-six year old at a kitchen table is not being answered. It is being asked.

Declare this over yourself

Then say these out loud. Know what they stand on: this authority is not yours by nature, it is Christ's, and in Christ it has been given to you, so you speak as one representing the King and not as a woman rehearsing a loss. Every line rests on what is already written, and it is the Holy Spirit who carries it, never the sound of your own voice. You speak under His will, never over it, and however He answers, the outcome is His.

  1. Departure I have been rehearsing for eight months, you are canceled. Scripture keeps the man who said he would not believe unless he saw, and keeps him in the house with the others a week later.
  2. Fear that a young man being honest at my table is a young man on his way out, get out, in the name of Jesus. He has been over five times since, he fixed the gutter in June, and he rang last week about the girl.
  3. Lord, You kept both halves in the record, the sentence and the staying, and You have never treated an honest question as a notice of departure. I am asking him what he meant next time our hands are busy, and when he answers I am asking him a second question instead of arguing.

Why we ask you to say these out loud

The word this stands on

John 20:24-25

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